raven
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Nov 15, 2009 22:53:01 GMT -5
Post by raven on Nov 15, 2009 22:53:01 GMT -5
:-[hey... sorry if i ask to many questions on here but what kind of glue would be good for making weapons and or shields.
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Dorian Prior
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glue
Nov 16, 2009 0:19:37 GMT -5
Post by Dorian Prior on Nov 16, 2009 0:19:37 GMT -5
DAP, Gorilla Glue, carpet tape. All it depends on is what phase of construction you're in really. In my opinion at least. If you're building a single blue: I DAP the first layers of foam to the core. Once that first layer is put down I put the last layers on with carpet tape. With shields, I've found that Gorilla glue works quite well. Others may say otherwise. I think it's more of a personal preference and what you've used in construction in the past that determines what you tend to use. You find a better way to do it (i.e. my experience with carpet tape), and you start using that. That was probably way too wordy for such a simple topic...
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raven
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Nov 16, 2009 0:30:21 GMT -5
Post by raven on Nov 16, 2009 0:30:21 GMT -5
thanks. right now im just working with duck tape and i need somting better. but the weapons are workin great. havent broke yet and they've held up to some preety good hits
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glue
Nov 16, 2009 8:54:06 GMT -5
Post by Stubbie on Nov 16, 2009 8:54:06 GMT -5
What Dorian said is all true; but DAP requires somewhere that is fairly well ventilated to use. Or someone who really likes sniffing glue. (for comparison, a quart can open, will create a noticeable smell through-out my 2car garage).
Carpet tape doesn't work so well in winter (my experiences anyway).
Haven't messed with Gorilla Glue....never had any gorilla's needing stuck together.
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glue
Nov 16, 2009 9:46:56 GMT -5
Post by Firoth on Nov 16, 2009 9:46:56 GMT -5
My opinions:
Carpet Tape: Works well for quick fix weapons, but doesn't last for too long and the cold absolutely destroys these kinds of weapons. That, and they sound weird when they hit people :/
Double sided Duct Tape: I've heard this stuff is amazing if you can find it. Holds great and doesnt have quite the same problems as carpet tape.
Gorilla Glue: NO. Just no. Gorilla glue is a hard setting, foaming glue that won't hold anything together period. It granulates under friction if it isn't set up right, and it fills gaps with razor sharp edges. If you need a super tight bond use GOOP (its the green tire sealant stuff) instead. It doesn't expand, it's easier to use, and if you put it on something it's never coming off.
Spray Glue (Super 77, etc): These work pretty well, though they do make a mess. Again, durability isn't outstanding, and if it's cold outside your pretty much out of luck when it comes to applying it.
Dap: The winner of glues in my opinion, although technically it's not a glue. It is super durable, and if you know how to use it, I'm almost positive the bond will outlast the foam its attaching.
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For closed cell to closed cell bonds (aka two pieces of blue foam): Use Dap For open cell to closed cell or open cell to open cell (Squishy foam): Use Spray Glue
----------------------------------------------------------- Firoth's mini DAP tutorial:
Dap is easy to use if you read the can. You just have to know that it's NOT a glue. It's a contact cement. Dap is an adhesive suspended in a liquid medium so that you can apply it to things. In order for it to work correctly, you have to wait for it to dry. That and it's only meant to bond super well to itself.
1. Apply a layer of Dap on BOTH of the pieces you want to adhere together.
2. Let it sit for about 15 minutes until the glue is only tacky to the touch. If it strings to your finger, you didn't wait long enough.
Optional step 3: For a super awesome bond apply a second coat of dap to both sides of what you just did and wait about 20 minutes or so for this layer to dry.
4. Stick both pieces of foam together. Make sure that you do it right the first time, because if you try to pull it apart you will either damage the foam or make the Dap string, which means that you will never get a good bond with that application of Dap.
5. Do not wrap tape around the finished product for around 24 hours. As Dap dries it releases gasses that can build up beneath the tape and weaken the Dap bond. If you did the process correctly you shouldn't ever need tape to hold it together, it should hold itself together just fine. -------------------------------
Sorry for the long winded post, but hopefully it helped.
~Frothy
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raven
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Nov 16, 2009 13:23:21 GMT -5
Post by raven on Nov 16, 2009 13:23:21 GMT -5
you guys are seriously gods.... i thank you.... its better than useing a roll of duck tape for one wepon. no glue at all... but they work. id rather make them right though so thank you
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