Trident?

[Balfur Ignis]

I know there are many ways for me to look this up myself but you guys are more reliable than the scary internet.

I had a couple ideas on how to make one and i wanted it to be used like it is in battle. (A three headed javelin).

I don't care the likelyness of it breaking or anything like that( i will rebuild and retest. i just wanted to know if it can be used the same way as a javelin given i build it like a javelin

[ziglerrobertson]

Sounds like that old pitchfork idea Nictmar came up for me. Which was not legal because it would catch peoples limbs

[Stubbie]

^---what he said. Plus trying to get a properly padded 3 headed javvy to pass weight limit would be problematic.

[Balfur Ignis]

well if its not throw legal thats fine but i knew of the limb catching problem and i had a plan to fix that. Either i make where a limb wouldnt fit or make too wide. I believe the former of the two would work fine

[MacDimm]

there's also the joint issue. any time you use a joint, you create a weak spot in the weapon that'll break in one or two good hits. Most of the time if a weapon doesn't exist in Dag, there's a good reason.

[Dorian Prior]

I don't see how you can use your method of making it so that "a limb wouldn't fit". If you're thinking that you can do it by making the space between the prongs very little, it won't work. Some of us don't have arms that are.... err... as "beefy" as others. For example, I can fit either of my wrists through a metal wristband that only has 2cm clearance. Does that make me a tad strange? Probably...

Point is, if your trident got ahold of one of my wrists, there's a chance you could break it. There is one other method that you could use to make it, however it involves more joints, which as MacDimm has said, is never a good idea. Even if you didn't use joints with this method (which involves gluing PVC pipes between the gaps in the prongs), it'll still break faster than you can say, "Well, that was a lot of wasted foam..."

[Rook]

Love the idea, I hope you can find a way that works. I've had a few engineers try and make me workable Sai's =

They were broken in about 30 secs...

[zeroek]

Stab 3 people at once

[Stubbie]

regardless of size of your gaps between heads man, the fact remains there are gaps. Meaning there is A CHANCE, no matter how "small" it may seem, that someone is gonna be beaned in the face by a non-striking padded portion.

Weapon checkers are obligated to weight possible injury vs. acceptable risk while doing their job. The risk is inherently there that someone is gonna be shafted across the nose-bridge with a standard javvy haft. That risk is deemed acceptable for the allowance of usage of jav's.

Now a design pop's up that has a HIGHER risk of this happening...the pendulum swings. I'm not saying you can't get it passable or safe, just that's the logic you have to follow / over-come....and you have to PROVE it beyond a reasonable doubt. To, quite frankly, morons. Never under estimate the stupidity of your average person.

[Carneth]

Hear, hear.

A trident is one of those weapons that I spent hours thinking about just to see if I could come up with a way to make one that works. I didn't have any luck, and I don't know of anyone who has been able to create such a weapon that is legal by Dagorhir standards AND will stand up to a lot of abuse.

I really do hope you find a way and prove us all wrong, and when you're toting your legal and sturdy trident around the field we will hang our heads in shame for our lack of faith

[Sir Nichtmar]

Use a javelin and pretend.

Or make the outside points coreless (only foam) and use it strictly for rp. And hope it doesn't look lame.

Or don't waste the foam and make a glaive

Or watch avatar

[Baethor]

[Sir Nichtmar]

Use a javelin and pretend.

Or make the outside points coreless (only foam) and use it strictly for rp. And hope it doesn't look lame.

Or don't waste the foam and make a glaive

Or watch avatar

[ziglerrobertson]

Use a javelin and pretend.

Or make the outside points coreless (only foam) and use it strictly for rp. And hope it doesn't look lame.

Or don't waste the foam and make a glaive

Or watch avatar

Or listen to two whales humping.

It is the same price not matter which route you take.

[Balfur Ignis]

Thanks for the suggestions. I will just make it but not use it at dag. Pretending defeats the purpose and i dont rp so none of you will be seeing it. Thanks anyways

[Balfur Ignis]

Despite my own skepticism of making a dag-legal trident i now want to challenge myself to attempt. You can get your laughs in now for i myself dont think i will succeed either. But my first question that arises and is my largest obstacle.

How does one consider what limb entrapment is? If you could give me a detailed explanation i would thank you for your service.

[Stubbie]

Anything that would hold or other wise inhibit motion of a limb, would be what i would say is limb entrapment. Also if it can conceivable fit around a neck, it is instantly a no-no.

[Rook]

You can use it on me if I can use my dangerous illegal weapons on you.

Wonder if anyone out there remembers the stuff I had when I started like my 3 headed tennis ball flail...

ah memories...

[Balfur Ignis]

Jan 9, 2010 19:16:38 GMT -5 Stubbie said:

Anything that would hold or other wise inhibit motion of a limb, would be what i would say is limb entrapment. Also if it can conceivable fit around a neck, it is instantly a no-no.

Thank you for the information.

Jan 9, 2010 21:01:32 GMT -5 Rook said:

You can use it on me if I can use my dangerous illegal weapons on you.

Wonder if anyone out there remembers the stuff I had when I started like my 3 headed tennis ball flail...

ah memories...

Rook my first Mittelmarch practice i went to you tackled me to the ground and killed me with my own sword. I don't want to be anywhere near an illeagal weapon you have made.