Brom
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Post by Brom on Nov 2, 2009 21:25:42 GMT -5
Ok...So Me and my old man were talking and i was explaining how Rooks shield plus my awesome strength broke my first sword. He then told me that fishing Rods are made from Fiberglass and that maybe i could use them to replace the broke core of my blade. I think it feels the same..mabey a little bit heavier and a little bit more "bendy" It is the bottom of the pole...So it doesn't bend 90 degrees... I will be bringing it to practice tommorow...I think its perfect.lol Is this legal?
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Post by Firoth on Nov 2, 2009 21:37:19 GMT -5
....So Me and my old man were talking and i was explaining how Rooks asian ninja skills plus my punch blocking broke my first sword. He then told me..... Fixed. ;D Most fishing poles have metal connectors between the different rungs. These make the weapon both illegal due to metal in the core, as well as structurally unsound because it creates multiple stress points along the length of the core. Fishing poles are also really really thin and really flexible, because they have to be. Both are qualities that we don't want for dagorhir weapons. If you want a good, reliable weapon core I can bring you a fiberglass electric fence post on Tuesday if you'll be there. They make great weapon cores, and in this case it's free since I'm giving it to you. You'll have to ask around for help with blade construction though, I'm not exactly the best at explaining things clearly in person. ~Frothy P.s. Eventually if you get money you can move on to more expensive options like 3/8" square fiberglass, kitespar like the sword you broke, or bandshoppe for longer weapons. All of these are more than you probably want to spend for a weapon core in shipping alone though....
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Brom
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Post by Brom on Nov 2, 2009 21:45:55 GMT -5
Lol. Your does make wayyyy more sence Rook is a ninja. Dang i thought i did a good job.lol. I shaved the mettel things off... Sad day. But i would be greatly grateful for the fence post. My other question would be...Could i make a fiberglass shield?
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Post by Stubbie on Nov 2, 2009 22:12:10 GMT -5
I'm not the greatest smith here but when you're looking at fiberglass for weapon cores, you want solid rods, not hollow tubes. Solid rods have a lot more strength than hollow tubes (yes kitespar is hollow tubes, more on that later). Plus have you ever broken a fishing pole? It's splinter city man, fibers poking out every which way and junk. I'm just touching fiberglass now that I've been in Dag a little over a year, I'd recommend starting out on PVC cores, but if your comfortable rollin straight to fiberglass that's awesome .
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Brom
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Post by Brom on Nov 2, 2009 22:39:55 GMT -5
I only picked a fishing Rod because i figuired the flex would be perfect (its a short sword so it figuired it wouldnt bend alot but just enough.) And because my dad said they were made from fiberglass. And about the shield, my dad is a fiberglass specialist and offered to make one for me..for free. I was just wondering if it was possible because i cant seem to find a thread that explains how to make them. And to make things way worse...that was my only weapon Thanks for the help tho Stubbie
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Post by Stubbie on Nov 3, 2009 8:39:58 GMT -5
You can't find a thread on how to make....shields? Or fiberglass shields specifically? First: what type/size of shield? Round - kite - tower....24" across ....30 in across? So far as I know, you can have the core of your shield be fiberglass, that's no problem. Just as long as there are barriers to prevent the splinters from poking out into people....or worse getting INTO people. Fiberglass splinters aren't nice things . Sorry to hear you broke your only weapon . What practice can you make it out to?
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Brom
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Post by Brom on Nov 3, 2009 13:40:16 GMT -5
I usualy go to the tuesdays practice. (and saterday if i can) And I havnt found a thread on how to make the fiberglass ones. I mean he just wants the specs.lol Because i have no clue. And im still not even sure what kind of sheild i want. Any suggestions, from people who fight with me? What would you pick for a shield Stubbie?
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Dorian Prior
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Post by Dorian Prior on Nov 3, 2009 13:58:56 GMT -5
As far as I know: Round shields: Good for flankers and people who can pull off spin moves effectively. Generally not good for straight-up frontlines or people who can't dodge leg attacks. Tower shields: Good for frontline fights and protects torso and legs. Generally heavier, but provides better protection. Not good for flankers or fighters based around speed. Kite shields: Roughly the mix inbetween rounds and towers (though they usually look more similar to towers). Can be used for frontlines or random skirmishes. If built properly (and is lightweight) could be used for flankers. I personally will be buying a tear-drop round shield from Edhellen here pretty soon. It'll provide the leg protection I need, but be fast enough to spin with. Of course, I need to learn how to spin effectively first. That's my two cents. If anything said here is wrong, correct and smite me.
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Post by Stubbie on Nov 3, 2009 18:02:43 GMT -5
Ah, I was just wondering. I can never make Tuesday practices and...well haven't made the last couple sat's. But A LOT of good smith's go to Tues pracs...or so I've been told. They can help you out more than myself; as face to face is much clearer than text.
I have never ran across anyone using fiberglass for a shield core, but as I said, I dunno why you couldn't. Assuming you will be making your shield out of all blue foam. figure you will be adding 2" - 3"of padding to your shields thickness (face and back padding) and another 2" on width (edge padding).
What Dorian said is pretty spot on. A lot of people advise you start out fighting with ~24" diameter round shield. This gives you good torso coverage and FORCES you to learn foot work or be legged all the time. Problem is on the learning curve, you will be legged a lot. Also you'll expose your shield-side shoulder a lot; at first anyway.
Kites / Towers give you great coverage but can hinder your movement and SERIOUSLY hampers your learning of defensive movements during battle. Get used to always having that shoulder covered or knee's behind a shield and then when you don't have it, you don't have that instinctive sense to move and get wacked.
I'd recommend a good round myself, but I'm stilling learning sword and board so what I'm sayin shouldn't be carryin much weight.
Just what ever you build, make sure you follow these rules:
4.7.4 - A shield may not be taller than the distance between the wielder's chin and their ankles, nor wider than 3 feet.
4.7.5 - The minimum diameter of a shield is 12 inches.
So if you're making a core for a maximum sized square tower lets say, measure from chin to ankle, then don't forget to reduce it by 4 inches (2 inches padding top and bottom edges) and the core no wider than 32 inches (2 inches padding each side).
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MacDimm
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Post by MacDimm on Nov 3, 2009 21:22:10 GMT -5
Tower shields are for chumps. Build something for skill. Otherwise might as well ball and wall.
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Brom
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Post by Brom on Nov 3, 2009 22:35:56 GMT -5
Well I have desided to take your advise and have started production of round shield. I seriosly thank you guys for all the help And Stubbie i met you at the crown war...I was the big guy in blue
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Post by Stubbie on Nov 3, 2009 23:09:36 GMT -5
Round shield, good show! No offense brotha but I was in the middle of a sinus infections during Crown War and I don't remember much, lol. There were several big guys in blue....you have the chainmaille?
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Brom
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Post by Brom on Nov 3, 2009 23:20:11 GMT -5
lol...Nope, i dont even have garb yet, i was just in a blue polo.
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