Atila
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Nov 13, 2009 18:36:15 GMT -5
Post by Atila on Nov 13, 2009 18:36:15 GMT -5
So i jsut want to figure a couple things out. I have read most of the rules but there are a few questions i want cleared up.
My friend and i's garb are long robes;
1.if a weapon gets wrapped in our robe, can we use our garb to twist and disarm the person? Might sound stupid but i could see it happening. ---------------- 2.Can you stab someone with a arrow? LOL i know that one someone will make fun at but hell im sure it happened back in the day at one point. ---------------- 3.I do not understand rocks.... i really don't. Do you tape them or cover them or do you jsut straight up beam a rock at someone?
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Brom
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Nov 13, 2009 19:50:56 GMT -5
Post by Brom on Nov 13, 2009 19:50:56 GMT -5
Rocks have to be made by foam And they only count as death if you hit someone in the head with it. And i dont think it can weigh more then 1 pound. And Arrows cannot be used as hand weapons. And i doubt anyone is gonna judge you for being confused.lol Mittel March is full of epic people.lol Not judgemental jerks.
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MacDimm
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Nov 13, 2009 20:32:23 GMT -5
Post by MacDimm on Nov 13, 2009 20:32:23 GMT -5
some of us are epically judgmental jerks Technically, you can use your robes to do that if it were to happen. It probably will not happen. If it happens, plan on people not aiming for the flowy parts of your robes anymore. Also, if someone were to do that to me, I'd fully consider it initiating a grapple. But then again, I'm an epic jerk
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Nov 13, 2009 21:17:02 GMT -5
Post by Kotaro on Nov 13, 2009 21:17:02 GMT -5
Arrows can never be used as hand weapons. You can, however, stab someone with a javelin.
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Nov 13, 2009 21:43:47 GMT -5
Post by Cathán Neamhnaofa on Nov 13, 2009 21:43:47 GMT -5
also with the rocks the foam has to be covered by fabric and you have to throw it at them.
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Atila
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Nov 13, 2009 22:08:05 GMT -5
Post by Atila on Nov 13, 2009 22:08:05 GMT -5
Okay thanks for verifying that stuff.
I honestly thought you guys were throwing straight up rocks. o.0 a little unexpected when you like, "okay the weapons can hurt and so can grappling but i can do this... WHAP!!!!! AHH MY EYE!!!!"<-------Me getting hit in the eye with a rock.
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Nov 15, 2009 12:29:22 GMT -5
Post by oof on Nov 15, 2009 12:29:22 GMT -5
I would say for question one, while technically not covered in the rules, do not do this intentionally, but if it happens...meh
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Nov 15, 2009 13:28:34 GMT -5
Post by Stubbie on Nov 15, 2009 13:28:34 GMT -5
www.digitalbonsai.com/dagrules-draft/ Ruleset as of 8/8/08. 4.10.2 - If a blow strikes a sheathed weapon (i.e., one that is attached/hanging from one's belt or over one's back) or any other worn object, including baggy clothing such as cloaks, the attack is considered to have hit the fighter. A weapon must be in a fighter's hand to intercept an attack. Do with it as you will.
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MacDimm
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Nov 17, 2009 6:34:38 GMT -5
Post by MacDimm on Nov 17, 2009 6:34:38 GMT -5
they really wrote that into the rules? I'm sorry, but that's kind of retarded and open to all kinds of typical dagorhir whining about "I hit you! I so did!"... I do not like where these rule sets keep going. They're weinie-ing up the sport. First there's not such thing as a "light" hit, and now that kinda takes out the concept of calling "garb" if somebody just catches on your clothing. Any nerd with a cheater flail can come out and have their way now.
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Nov 17, 2009 16:02:40 GMT -5
Post by Haldour on Nov 17, 2009 16:02:40 GMT -5
Clearly, that is not the spirit of this rule. It is to prevent people from wearing clothing designed to intentionally entangle weapons to prevent them from hitting you.
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Nov 17, 2009 23:28:30 GMT -5
Post by Stubbie on Nov 17, 2009 23:28:30 GMT -5
^ What he said.
And it was in the previous rule set dated as 03.
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Nov 18, 2009 17:49:28 GMT -5
Post by Sir Rune on Nov 18, 2009 17:49:28 GMT -5
Haldour has the gist of it. More there to keep people from wearing ginormous robes, and the clothing absorbing all the hit before it actually gets to the person. And there is most definitely light hits. Sufficient force is sufficient force. Not a tap game. Most times, I'll call a graze, because that's normally the only time a light hit... hits. Sometimes I take it, sometimes I say, swing harder pussy! Depends on my mood.
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Nov 19, 2009 6:36:20 GMT -5
Post by MacDimm on Nov 19, 2009 6:36:20 GMT -5
I realize why it's there, as I'm sure all of you do. But it's like when they wrote "light" hits out of the rules. There will be people that abuse it like crazy. Hence why we have so many people running around with ultralight swords that complain when people don't take their hits. At Rag this became apparent to me as a problem when a fellow herald for a game said "There are no light hits. Take it next time." .... no light hits? What??? I'm one to very very rarely call anything light, and will take just about anything that I actually feel. But in the older rules, it basically said you needed to have a forceful blow to count it. Not flick your weapon at someone. I'm not saying try to crush ribcages or break arms, but there's a limit. Ultimately, this is supposed to be a combat simulation and role-playing game. Yes, for safety reasons there are some things we just can't do, but at this point I'm honestly worried about some of the weanie-ing up.
Was it written in the same language in the 03 rule set? Just curious because I thought I had the rules pretty well down.
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Nov 19, 2009 12:25:09 GMT -5
Post by Firoth on Nov 19, 2009 12:25:09 GMT -5
3.4 - Judging Hits: hide
3.4.1 - Hits from hand-held weapons count when the weapon strikes solidly with noticeable force. NOTE: what constitutes a “solid strike” is necessarily subjective and thus relies on the honor of both the attacker and the person who is struck.
They made the wording better.
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