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Post by zalos on Dec 7, 2006 23:05:11 GMT -5
I was thinking of a winter activity I can do inside, have fun, and uses more muscles than my right pointer finger and my left index, middle, and ring finger. So im taking up nunchaku. Sad thing is I always start up stuff like this, go crazy on it for a month or two than quit. but oh well. My question, has there ever been any thoughts on Nunchaku for dagorhir, and if not are there any possibillity if I made safe, resonable chucks would i be able to test use them? Im thinking after winter practices with mittlemarch, however i might try them out (if i make them) here at stormhaven. I know certian hazards, such as the chain, wich I would think would have the same restrictions as that of a flail chain. Thoughts, ideas, hell no's? I was thinking of making chucks with spikes so they could double as daggers
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Post by Baethor on Dec 8, 2006 0:18:49 GMT -5
People have tried zalos, unfortunatly its impossible, because you cannot hold the striking surface of a weapon, which, nunchuku are all striking surface.
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Post by zalos on Dec 8, 2006 2:14:56 GMT -5
oo thats odd...hmm not sure how to get around that :<
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Post by Rook on Dec 8, 2006 11:18:52 GMT -5
I've got chucks of all kinds and I have used them in Dag before.
They don't work well...
Bottom line: even with foam padded chucks with a rope chain will tear another sword apart if you are using them to entrap weapons so they really aren't practical to fight with if you can't use them defensively with out breaking someones weapon.
The same concept applies to using them to entrap limbs/wrists etc. even rope ones will break bones = can't use em in sparring without often hurting someone.
If you want to learn some chucks techniques remind me some time and i'll show you what i've learned.
Rook.
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Post by Alric, son of Harland on Dec 8, 2006 12:31:45 GMT -5
There is nothing in the rules that says a flail head must be spherical. It must be 16 inches around, but you could make a cylinder. It would be awkward and probably wouldn't be very similar to the way a real nunchaku works, but you could try.
Alric
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Post by Kazzell KumoKi on Dec 8, 2006 13:55:45 GMT -5
teehee thhat'd look odd but it'd be the closes passinng thing. i've taken up capoiera for thhe same reason and i'm planning on taking whhat i learn into dag somehow.
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Post by Kazzell KumoKi on Dec 8, 2006 13:58:26 GMT -5
u guys will hhafta show me some stuff, maybe i can hold daggers like chucks...is three anything saying i cnt have daggers conncted by a small rope?
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Post by zalos on Dec 8, 2006 15:20:48 GMT -5
There is nothing in the rules that says a flail head must be spherical. It must be 16 inches around, but you could make a cylinder. It would be awkward and probably wouldn't be very similar to the way a real nunchaku works, but you could try. Alric lol that would be funny. i could see it now, random guy 1, "Wtf is this, how do i test this?? hey who weapon is this? wtf is it? a what? a flailchuck? right well, which part is the striking part???" cool i would like to learn! Yeah i was thinking cloth chain, like a flail with donuts, and short, so as to not wrap as much, like really short. like other weapons, take the quarterstaff for instance, these would have special rules. For example, a quartstaff can have both ends green, in fact if one end is green both must be for it to count. However, Spears are not aloud to have both ends green nor javalins. ?? special rules for a special weapon. Here would be some rule for chucks i thought up through practicality. Hits: Chucks hit like a green. Unlike blue weapons they dont break armor and when hit in a limb it is not taken from the body but is useless and limp at the side as if it was stabbed with a green or hit with a yellow. Technical: Chain length, short and donuted with foam covered in cloth tape. Chucks can be used by holding the strikeing surface, however as a consequence chucks can be caught. If caught they dont count as a hit, but if an attempt at catching fails and simply bounce off the hand/arm/ect of the person try to catch the chuck, they are considered hit by the chucks if the grab is made while the user is making a swing. That is, if you try to grab the chucks while im swinging at you and you miss and it bounces out of your hand, your arm is gone (as if greened or yellowed). also, chucks may have the ends of them fitted witha stabbing tip as to double as daggers. (eh just a thought ) This is all in house stuff of course, i wouldnt expect anyone to accept chucks anywhere other than where we would test them, and these are just thoughts, i havent even gotten a real pair yet lol
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Post by Kazzell KumoKi on Dec 8, 2006 16:10:20 GMT -5
i like it. annd it'd be similar to a staff cause when you hit yourself with a staff within a cretin range you dont hurt yourself since it's the nature of the weapon to use it aginst your body.
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Post by Alric, son of Harland on Dec 8, 2006 17:24:03 GMT -5
Chucks hit like a green. Unlike blue weapons they dont break armor and when hit in a limb it is not taken from the body but is useless and limp at the side as if it was stabbed with a green or hit with a yellow. The new ruling is that no matter the damage, you must tuck an arm behind the back. If you lost it to a Green or Yellow, you still get one more Blue or Red to the arm before it counts as body, but you must put it behind you so everyone knows it's unusable. Alric
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Post by Kazzell KumoKi on Dec 8, 2006 18:31:08 GMT -5
noted.
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Post by Rook on Dec 8, 2006 19:08:11 GMT -5
You can borrow my chucks and fight me with them some practice if you remind me and give me notice to bring them. I think you will be disapointed. I'm actually not bad with chucks and i've found that with two of them I can keep a decent swordsman away from me for a while but sooner or later they will come in and slice you to pieces. You just can't beat the range. A good aggressive swordsman will(unless you get lucky or they get sloppy) win out 9/10x of course against a knife/dagger or unarmed opponent the fun really begins: 9lbs per cubic square inch to break human bones and chucks produce 90lbs Rook.
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Post by zalos on Dec 9, 2006 3:29:30 GMT -5
You can borrow my chucks and fight me with them some practice if you remind me and give me notice to bring them. I think you will be disapointed. I'm actually not bad with chucks and i've found that with two of them I can keep a decent swordsman away from me for a while but sooner or later they will come in and slice you to pieces. You just can't beat the range. A good aggressive swordsman will(unless you get lucky or they get sloppy) win out 9/10x of course against a knife/dagger or unarmed opponent the fun really begins: 9lbs per cubic square inch to break human bones and chucks produce 90lbs Rook. as a secondary small weapon, which would you say is better vs a sword, chucks or a dagger. Riddle me this, chucks that double as a daggers! Yeah i know i could prolly have a sword as my backup with my bow and prolly will. Just keeping an open mind ;>
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Post by Rook on Dec 9, 2006 12:15:00 GMT -5
Tough call, would depend on my opponent. I'd go with a dagger most likely since its hard to block with chucks one handed.
As far as chucks with blades go = bad idea. Looks good for a movie or something but not very practical for a flail that you are rebounding off of yourself every half second or so...
Rook.
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Post by Sir Rune on Dec 9, 2006 13:16:08 GMT -5
4.1.8.11. Disallowed weapons: Nets, lassos, pungi sticks, nunchucks, tonfas, double-ended daggers (this is not an exhaustive list).
Chucks are not legal, sorry, feel free to mnake them, and play, but they wont pass anywhere but here.
Rune
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Post by Rook on Dec 9, 2006 15:56:58 GMT -5
Wish I had a net to fight with. That would be really fun. I've fought with rope before which is pretty cool. Another fun weapon to fight with is a hook cane. Basicly one that looks like a --> J
You can use them as a sword, club, tonfa etc and they are great for throws, locks and weapon binding/disarms.
Rook.
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Post by Kazzell KumoKi on Dec 9, 2006 16:12:25 GMT -5
aas long as they pass here thats kool.
can we have that j weapon?
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Post by rave on Dec 9, 2006 16:14:22 GMT -5
Wish I had a net to fight with. That would be really fun. I've fought with rope before which is pretty cool. Another fun weapon to fight with is a hook cane. Basicly one that looks like a --> J You can use them as a sword, club, tonfa etc and they are great for throws, locks and weapon binding/disarms. Rook. i know, thoghs things are awsome.
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Post by Zaron on Dec 27, 2006 9:27:54 GMT -5
Hate to burst anyone's bubble, but here's the appropriate rule for nun chucks.
4.1.8.11. Disallowed weapons: Nets, lassos, pungi sticks, nunchucks, tonfas, double-ended daggers (this is not an exhaustive list).
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Post by zalos on Dec 27, 2006 19:28:06 GMT -5
rune said that in reply 14
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Post by Zaron on Dec 29, 2006 9:54:55 GMT -5
Doh, sorry, that's what I get for skimming while on vacation.
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Post by Sir Nichtmar on Jan 5, 2007 11:40:34 GMT -5
ya think people would be happy just to bash each other, but no they want nets, nun chucks, scythes
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Post by VodinHeavyHammer on Jan 5, 2007 23:11:20 GMT -5
We have a Scythe in our realm and it works. The only person allowed to use it is the creator because he knows how to and it works quite fine.
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Post by Zaron on Jan 6, 2007 20:17:40 GMT -5
Well Nichtmar, you know the only thing more cool than nun chucks, are SWORD CHUCKS. ;D
(Sorry, couldn't resist abit of 8 bit theater humor there.)
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Post by ken on Mar 20, 2007 22:28:22 GMT -5
Wish I had a net to fight with. That would be really fun. I've fought with rope before which is pretty cool. Another fun weapon to fight with is a hook cane. Basicly one that looks like a --> J You can use them as a sword, club, tonfa etc and they are great for throws, locks and weapon binding/disarms. Rook. Nevermind the historically legitimate cloak and dagger style. THE RETURN OF JIN!
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