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Post by Rojji on Jan 31, 2010 18:24:27 GMT -5
Which would be easiest and which would be the sturdiest? A core bent to look like a flamberge, or layered foam curves? I need advice.
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MacDimm
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Post by MacDimm on Jan 31, 2010 19:00:19 GMT -5
I've seen both methods in play. Assuming a PVC core because you can't bend fiberglass like that: Bending the core is less sturdy and difficult to make a consistent set of curves, but the final product requires less foam to get your three layers and will look better/be lighter, assuming again that you take your time to make a quality piece. Layering the foam will make a bulkier blade to get a curve and will be uglier and heavier as a final product, but you would have the option of using a fiberglass core to reduce weight, and the overall build would be easier in my opinion.
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Post by MacDimm on Jan 31, 2010 19:02:05 GMT -5
PS: that being said, you may want to try your hand at a straight red sword first if you haven't.
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Post by Rojji on Jan 31, 2010 19:15:21 GMT -5
lol i am thinking of "outsourcing" the project
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Post by Rojji on Jan 31, 2010 19:16:47 GMT -5
any takers? curved core would be best.
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Dorian Prior
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Post by Dorian Prior on Jan 31, 2010 20:42:31 GMT -5
Have you made your own blue sword yet? Made one yourself?
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Post by Rook on Jan 31, 2010 20:47:18 GMT -5
Best twohander i've seen period was made by Grigg. Look him up.
That sword was a thing of beauty. Very elaborate hilt and balanced to boot.
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Post by Rojji on Jan 31, 2010 20:56:06 GMT -5
i have made a sword dorian, just cant get the cover just right
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Post by Rojji on Jan 31, 2010 21:00:18 GMT -5
and i typed Grigg dagorhir in google and i got nothing
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Carneth
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Post by Carneth on Jan 31, 2010 21:10:56 GMT -5
I agree with MacDimm, I'd try building a straight red sword before attempting this project. If nothing else, just RP it. What you fight with on the battlefield doesn't have to be what your character would actually use. Trust me, I know as well as anyone how cool it would be to have an elaborate weapon, but you have to draw the line between what will look cool and what will withstand some abuse.
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Post by Rojji on Jan 31, 2010 21:26:08 GMT -5
i know, i probably wont fight with it....but still man
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Post by Carneth on Jan 31, 2010 21:44:15 GMT -5
Well don't make as sword you won't fight with. If you do make this weapon, make sure it can be used on the field. If you're just wanting to look cool, go for some live steel.
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Post by Rojji on Jan 31, 2010 21:56:37 GMT -5
live steel=$$$$
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Post by ziglerrobertson on Jan 31, 2010 22:23:11 GMT -5
as the whore once said to john, "Ya gotta pay to play old boy, you gotta pay to play."
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Post by Rojji on Jan 31, 2010 22:30:24 GMT -5
but she also said, "me love you long time" and that costs on an hourly rate. lol
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Post by Stubbie on Jan 31, 2010 22:58:54 GMT -5
Our old friend Rook meant to say "Grikk". I'll try and find a picture in a minute, it is a very nice sword. All conjecture here, as I've never used anything I"m about to say, so try it at your own risk...but I bet you would have best results using a 1/2' sq. fiberglass core, sandwich method of blade making and 1...possibly 2, outer wraps of EVA foam. That is if you intend to hit another living thing with it. 3/4" PVC and the sandwich method would achieve the same result with a lot less foam but if you EVER try to get that onto the field to use....you'll walk funny for a long time afterward. But if you wanted it for purely display purposes....that'd be an option. Dude, read the national boards at www.dagorhir.com as they have the wealth of knowledge 25+ years and 50 states can offer, as opposed to 1 realms. 1 tutorial of how to do sandwich: www.dagorhir.com/forums/index.php?topic=13814.0There are several others, look around the Nat.Boards a bit and you can pry find them. Just make your foam "blade" width VERY generous, draw your curves onto it (keeping core line centered in the design) and cut along lines.
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Post by Rojji on Jan 31, 2010 23:06:52 GMT -5
ty
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Post by Stubbie on Jan 31, 2010 23:18:25 GMT -5
Couldn't find a "good" pic but best I found was: Grikk is guy in foreground, steel pot looking helm, green skin.
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MacDimm
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Post by MacDimm on Jan 31, 2010 23:20:43 GMT -5
His is good. Semi/Dhugal had a gorgeous flamberge, but good luck finding anything on him.
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Post by Rojji on Feb 1, 2010 6:32:28 GMT -5
awesome thanks guys
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Post by zeroek on Feb 4, 2010 20:28:42 GMT -5
Grikk totally sticks out like crazy in that pic. In my opinion straight sword ftw.
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Post by Baethor on Feb 10, 2010 19:35:19 GMT -5
Oron has a ridiculous minimum length/weight flamberge. One of the best reds I've ever seen. He told me he built the thing using the sandwich method with kick board foam. Y'know the little kiddie kick boards that are really flexible but really firm? that stuff, plus it was cored with 2 driveway markers.
Bending the core will break your sword with anything more severe then that gentle curve our local "samurai" put in there katanas.
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Post by Rojji on Feb 10, 2010 20:09:35 GMT -5
yeah i curve my blades but with my first batch they kinda curved a little more than they should. oh well it appears okay. lol
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Post by Skaar il'Wulfsiger on Feb 13, 2010 20:17:46 GMT -5
If you curve the core it's all about durability and flex. Curved cores have to be PVC so you had better use a decent thickness to withstand the abuse and the flex. Beyond that, it's possible to get some really wicked bends that stand up to the abuse.
I had an Odachi that Millitis had made years ago and hadn't used much that had probably a good 3 inch bend to it from base to tip which withstood an entire season of me red-ding out here in the Northern Steppes with all the wood core shields and Dragoons and such. It really depends on the core more than anything.
P.S. The core is still good on the sucker, it was the foam that finally wore out. So it may return to the field eventually for another few years to come. Red weapons really do take some patience and some expertise, though; you may be onto something with the idea of outsourcing the project. ;-)
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Post by Rojji on Feb 13, 2010 22:38:45 GMT -5
i know lol
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