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Post by vitharr on Nov 30, 2006 12:31:17 GMT -5
ok so I am very new to Dagorhir, having just joined a club at my school in Fenir's group and i was wondering bout a certain weapon idea i had. Would it be legal to create a halberd, but instead of having a spear tip, could i put a flail on it? please tell me in as much detail as possible why this idea would or wouldnt work.
Thakns!
Vitharr
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Baethor
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Post by Baethor on Nov 30, 2006 13:23:21 GMT -5
ok, so you want a halberd, with a flail head on the tip? theres a lot to consider on this, two seperate striking surfaces, one which is red one which is blue, because flails cannot be red weapons.
theres a lot of confusing rules i could go through, but i'm gonna let you know a very important change that will happen sometime next year that will make your weapon illegal. they are going to give the flail a maximum length, which they have not had before. so making a super long flail like that wont be legal.
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Post by vitharr on Nov 30, 2006 14:04:53 GMT -5
ok thanks for the conformation. i thought that it might be a long shot, with the ability of a flail to get around shield, but still being so far away from the sheild at the time of striking. I think ill just stick my hopes on the halberd.
Vitharr
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Post by Sir Rune on Nov 30, 2006 14:19:28 GMT -5
Beathor, what is this *rule* that you are talkign about that they are going to do? i have heard nothing about it so far? Just wondering.
Vitharr, welcome to the boards, and i look forward to seeing you this weekend if you are coming to practice. One of the biggest reasons why your variation on a halberd would be illegal is because a swung weapon can not be red/blue. A weapon can be red and green or blue and green, but a weapon can not be red/blue. Another would be that having multiple striking surfaces would be a hazard, because you can only be struck once per swing with one weapon, so, which hit should be taken, the red to a shield, or the flail to the back. Thats mainly it, so no worries, i wanted a weapon like that when i started, cause really, who doesnt, it just sounds fun.
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Post by Sir Storm Brightblade on Nov 30, 2006 14:21:56 GMT -5
amen to that rune, and also from me welcome to the boards vitharr. i will see you probably if you make it to the practice.
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Post by Baethor on Nov 30, 2006 16:38:52 GMT -5
at the harvest feast i learned from will scarlet that dagorhir is changing the rules for flails, to give them a maximum length, so people dont cheese it up with 4 foot long flails.
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Post by Kazzell KumoKi on Nov 30, 2006 21:50:39 GMT -5
YAY to the ld rules and to the prospective amendments.
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Post by Zaron on Dec 1, 2006 4:54:20 GMT -5
As of now you could make a pole flail without the halbred with no trouble. I would not recommend it however as it would be very unwieldy, and could not break shields, not to mention that people would target you on the field for trying to be cheesy.  |
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Post by vitharr on Dec 1, 2006 14:33:25 GMT -5
Thanks for the info everyone. I do plan of coming to the noon practice on Saturday with Matt Faller. I dont think taht any one else from our group could make it. Look forward to seeing all who wil be there!
Vitharr
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Post by Kazzell KumoKi on Dec 1, 2006 15:27:26 GMT -5
sweet sweet
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Post by rave on Dec 9, 2006 17:51:10 GMT -5
on the topic of polearms, is a polearm mace legal?
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Post by Kazzell KumoKi on Dec 9, 2006 18:41:54 GMT -5
ooh ooohh i hope so!
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Post by vermin on Dec 9, 2006 21:06:03 GMT -5
Yes, a polearm mace is legal or else no one has ever said otherwise about mine. Basically I built a mushroom-cap spear for my other game which because of the way mushroom-caps are built it is sturdy enough to be swung. Being about five feet it is a swung red/double green; it is essentially a rounded rather than bladed glaive.
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Post by Kazzell KumoKi on Dec 10, 2006 2:18:31 GMT -5
thats jus tabout how i assumed it'd be...but a mushroom?
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Post by vermin on Dec 10, 2006 2:59:00 GMT -5
Basically, its like a piston. The stabbing tip has a little open cell foam at the tip for comfort but most of the compression is against the four inches of foam inside the spear. So, the outer shell slides back on impact absobing the blow. It's useful because built this way a spear will last forever. In this specific case swinging the weapon will not damage the stabbing component of the weapon, which is a problem with glaives unless they are very well built. Which is not impossible, I've not had to repair my glaive in close to two years of regular fighting.
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